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Line Drive Hacking With Josh Bell Swing Breakdown

 

Josh Bell Swing Breakdown

Josh Bell Swing Breakdown photo courtesy: MLB.com

In this Josh Bell swing breakdown, we cover:

  • Size,
  • Interesting metrics
  • DeRo analysis
  • 2018 RCF Homer: 5/31 83-mph breaking ball/SL, down/away VERSUS 2019 LCF Homer: 7/3 96-mph FB, mid/up
  • Some interesting things in swing analysis: Float, Fall, Barrel Path – CB down/away v. FB mid/up (and late), how well he matches plane of pitch (tube)

CLICK HERE to view the size and metrics data on FanGraphs.

Here’s the Josh Bell swing breakdown Mark DeRosa video referenced above… (watch at about the 2:38 minute spot)

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12 replies
  1. Joe
    Joe says:

    Joey,

    Great job as always. DeRo always tells you what a player is doing but never explains why. Thanks for doing that. One other thing, DeRo talked of Albert Pujols’ wide, no-stride approach. The only problem is, Pujols’ doesn’t hit like that any more. He uses a stride, a somewhat long one at that, to utilize forward momentum. Don’t think that DeRo would offer an explanation for that either.

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    • Joey Myers
      Joey Myers says:

      Haha, yes I’d agree with you. Timing is much more difficult with a wide no-stride approach. That’s why you don’t see that in elite swings that often.

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  2. kory
    kory says:

    dont you feel
    like he was arm barring in the before but barrell adjustability triangle in the second clip? i know your pro arm bar but i think the adjustability makes u a better all around hitter.once pitchers make adjustments of course .

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    • kory
      kory says:

      i know the first one was a breaking pitch and the second one was a heater in a little but are you totally against the adjustability triangle?

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      • Joey Myers
        Joey Myers says:

        Yes I am because the adjustability of the front arm (bent) comes at a cost. To Mike Trout, down and away (front arm straight) his avg. ball exit speed is 101-mph. Up and in (front arm bent at 90-degrees) his avg. ball exit speed is 80-mph…he’s giving up 21-mph of ball exit speed using the “adjustable” swing!!! On avg. he’s literally giving up 84-feet of distance! That’s giving away the farm, the wife, AND the kids!! Gotta swing smarter.

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    • Joey Myers
      Joey Myers says:

      I agree with you Kory, in this day and age of pitchers literally throwing into barrels, any hitter can get away with the adjustable swing. When hitters smarter up however, look out…the adjustable swing will become extinct. It will require smarter hitting.

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  3. Joe
    Joe says:

    Kory,

    Bell’s swing looks a little loopy because of that. Perry Husband has the analytics to back up the arm bar devotees but the jury is still out, I guess. I dont think you can hit a high inside fastball with a barred front arm. The triangle was evident in the swings of Pete Alonso and Vladimir Guerrero Jr. in the HR Derby. That 500+ foot HR hit by Nomar Mazara of the Texas Rangers a few weeks ago? Well, his front arm was bent. So, I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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    • Joey Myers
      Joey Myers says:

      But Joe, can bent arm guys like Vlad and Judge hit the ball further with a straighter front arm? Like I said to Kory…

      “Mike Trout, down and away (front arm straight) his avg. ball exit speed is 101-mph. Up and in (front arm bent at 90-degrees) his avg. ball exit speed is 80-mph…he’s giving up 21-mph of ball exit speed using the “adjustable” swing!!! On avg. he’s literally giving up 84-feet of distance! That’s giving away the farm, the wife, AND the kids!! Gotta swing smarter.”

      Perry and I talk about how to keep the front arm straight and hit plus velocity in at this link: https://hittingperformancelab.com/5000-swing-experiments-validate-locked-out-lead-arm-is-superior-to-bent/

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  4. Joe
    Joe says:

    Joey,

    But could they get to it? Can you get to that high pitch with a barred front arm? A bent front arm worked for Nomar Mazzara in hitting his 500+ foot bomb.

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    • Joey Myers
      Joey Myers says:

      Joe, yes my hitters get to an elevated fastball consistently with a barred front arm). Getting to it has to do with barrel path, NOT the barred front arm. I haven’t seen the swing, but Mazzara probably could have hit that ball significantly further with a longer lever. That’s a common law of engineering.

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  5. Joe
    Joe says:

    Joey,

    I posted this on the VGJ article too. Took time to watch you and Perry’s convo. I get what you are saying. You said to watch how you explained “HOW to get to a pitch middle up or middle in with an arm bar.”. You showed how to do it but is that faster to the ball up and in? Can you prove that? More BES but do you get there faster. You still have to get there. My experience has taught me that you can beat someone who bars the front arm on a pitch up (yes, I know about the guys who use the many lessons and hours of watching video reasoning. Not one of those guys). Just the same, please check out Gleyber Torres’ HRs vs the Red Sox this weekend. You got to get to the pitch first. Deep barrel dumping is not a good thing. A hitter can’t just dump the barrel. Hand pressure needed to keep the bat on plane.

    Starting around the 50 minute mark Perry goes in to the bent front arm example. But, does anyone keep that much bend in the arms, having them so close to their body? That’s not what I’m talking about either. Perry’s example is too restricting. A hitter would do that if he is beat/late.

    I get Dr. Nathan’s contention/findings and don’t dispute that. I don’t think that Ruth and Williams, as physically constituted back then, would hit 98 – 104 mph.

    Head over front leg in stride is still Lau/Hriniak to me – too far for the head to go. Lunging. Head at the top of your triangle of the legs in the stride.

    You still have the best stuff out there and I enjoy the conversations.

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